Open Letter to Show [RockStarPeach]

Be advised, this rant contains ideas that are probably not even truly my own, when I have a cooler head than I currently do, but they're close enough to my actual opinion that I feel comfortable stating them right now as absolute truth :)

Dear Show:

You have sucked ass since season 4 started.

And this is coming from someone who is a gigantic Castiel fan, and who loves the episode 'The End' more than any episode of any television show in the history of ever.

Dean and Sam used to care about each other. Each other was why they got up in the morning, why they kept going when they didn't think they could. Each other meant more than anything else in the world, even the world itself.

But since s4, it's like they've been phoning it in. From farther and farther away, every episode.

Sure, we get little carrots. Dean will tell Sam that 'of course he loves him best and he'd never ever choose a vampire over him, not ever!' and Sam will tell Dean that 'he'd choose a miserable life on the road with him any day over a pretty girl and a dog and a house in the suburbs'.

But that only ever lasts a week or two and they're back to hating each other's guts again.

I tune in for the 'psychotic, irrational, erotic co-dependence'. If I don't get that, I don't want to tune in!

I can't stand it. I'm hanging in there, because that's what I do when I get into a show, but the reality is, I'm only hanging in there because the first three seasons were unfuckingbelievable! The last five and a half have sucked some serious ass and I'm just hoping each damn week that it'll get better, go back to how it was.

I know better. I know that it's NOT going to give me what I want, but I'm just so flummoxed by that, that I refuse to believe it.

For serious, Dear Whoever-Is-In-Charge-Of-The-Show-Right-Now,

How? How can you possibly think that all this epic bullshittery is the way to keep your old school fans happy? Assuming you're not a legitimate moron, you must understand how utterly not enjoyable this is. I'm trying to understand why you'd do this to us, to the Brothers Winchester, but given that you've dropped the ball for half a decade, I have zero faith in you pulling out a satisfying ending to this shit show.

So, dear Supernatural, I beg of you. For all the good it won't do, I beg you. Please stop sucking.

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Hallelujah sister, SOOOOOOO right there with you!!!

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I absolutely could not hate this sh*t more. I'll (almost certainly) never stop watching, just because I can't not stay with Sam and Dean til the end. But damn. They're killing me here.

This is how I feel. I can never quit them, even though at this point I'd really, really like to.

Since season 4? Wow, that's a long time to hang in there. That just must really suck for you. In fact, you sound like me with Smallville. I never loved the show though, just Clark and Lex. Still, when you're consistently screwed by your show it hurts, I know. I did come to really like Smallville in the last two or three seasons, if that helps. But I liked it because Lex left the show and Clark was able to grow up.

I can't help but love this show, though.

Well, okay, not really since S4. I mean, that's when the emotional distance started between them, but I could have handled a year, even two of that, if they'd come out the other side even stronger! Or, some lame Lifetime crap like that.

So it didn't bother me so much in S4 or S5, but now looking back on it, their relationship (and therefore the show) has been pretty sucktastic for a damn long time.

Heh, and that's funny about Smallville. I did watch it - I started to watch it when it first started to air and thought 'well this sucks! This is like... Buffy meets Dawson's Creek! Where the hell's my damn superheroes at?!'. Then when Jensen came on I watched from the beginning again - still thought it was terrible (especially S4. OMG, Jason, how can one character suck so badly!) - and then in S5 I thought it started to get really good!

I guess for people who were into it from the start, that's when it would have started to go downhill. It's interesting that you mention Lex leaving the show helped Clark grow up. I feel like it was Lana leaving that did that. Maybe that was just because I did NOT enjoy that character. I did very much like Lex - not so much Clark. Well, not so much Clark when Lana was around. But Lois friggin' rocked and I don't care what you say, I loved Oliver. He was pretty :) Also, Chloe was awesome.

OLIVER??? OMG, I hated him so much I had to write a story to kill him!! It was fun, too. :D And almost everyone across the board hated Lana. I killed her too. I'm violent with a pen. Or a keyboard.

Lex. Oh man, I was THE Lex girl. Lex was fabulous. Lex I shipped with everyone. By the show's end, I was loving Clark, but Lex! *happysigh* And yeah, Chloe was awesome and Lois rocked and that was one of my incredibly rare het OTPs--but I didn't want to see it until Lex was gone.

Jason Teague was the WORST!!! SV did nothing to change my mind about my feelings for Jensen at the time. In fact, when I read he was coming to SV, I was all, 'Aww, shit! Not that fucking twink on my show!'

but now looking back on it, their relationship (and therefore the show) has been pretty sucktastic for a damn long time.

You know, their relationship has *always* sucked. Sam's tried to kill Dean like how many times while "possessed"? It sucked from the get. We had to fill in a whole lot back in the day. (wincest, yay). But I'm always a little puzzled when folks say "Oh, it's not like the old days, Boys!" because there's always been a ton of resentment and jealousy on both their parts. I happen to think they still like each other. I think the difference now is that ~~Jared and Jensen are no longer fucking and it shows on the screen~~ they've been through hell, the both of them, and have grown up--maybe Sam a bit more than Dean.

Edited Date: 2014-02-05 03:14 pm (UTC)

I had no opinion on Jensen at all before I watched SPN. I'd never seen him in anything, before. It was only because I loved him so much in SPN that I went back and watched Smallville. And then hated him! Well, no, but that character. Jeeze.

And sure, Dean and Sam's relationship has always been... troubled. But it was different before. They were intense and violent and very, very bad for each other. But none of that mattered because we still got the impression that behind all that, they really did love each other.

I don't see that love anymore. I see fatigue and obligation.

But yeah, it could just be that Jensen and Jared aren't fucking these days :)

I miss the affection Sam and Dean used to feel for each other..seasons 1 and 2 are still my personal favorites.

Yeah, that's the bad thing about getting super into a show from the start. It will change - that's just what shows do. If they're good shows, with good writers and people who care like the fans do, it will change in a way that makes sense and keeps people happy.

Sadly, that did not happen, this time.

I think Farscape was the last tv series I saw where the characters changed in believable ways that completely worked for me.

First two seasons were so good. I def. feel ya, even if I haven't seen the new ones. Why can't they just have the brothers fight together? IDGI. :(

I'm kinda jealous that you haven't seen the show in a while. I would love to be able to go back and stop watching after S5. I really would.

I just want them to love each other again!!! *weeps*

I should have said new one. *sigh* No, I'll watch until it's cancelled. I have to say I'm more emotionally vested in this season than I have been in a while. And, I think what's missing from s.1-4 is that they aren't as much of a team, that the writer's aren't as invested in the characters and that SamandDean don't seem to take any joy in life, much less in each other. If they play this story out I think it could end well, but in order to keep the show fresh I think they need to get Sam and Dean on the same page. This endless fighting each other instead iof fighting the bad guys is tiresome.

IDK, I'm more . . . wounded . . . than angry right now. Still keeping faith that they'll unfuck this mess and give us our brothers back, but this right here:

How? How can you possibly think that all this epic bullshittery is the way to keep your old school fans happy? Assuming you're not a legitimate moron, you must understand how utterly not enjoyable this is.

. . . is spot-on.

There's just so much to unfuck right now, I really can't see how they'll manage. Especially given they've shown absolutely no interest in doing so.

And I'm more angry than wounded. I know this sounds stupid, but I feel like this show owes us. We've hung in there for SO LONG, we've spent ridiculous amounts of money on dvds and conventions, we're all up in the online polls for one dumb thing after another and all we ask in return is what we were promised at the start: A show about two brothers against the world, a show about family.

And we've been heartily shafted at every turn.

I only just finished season 5, but at this point, I've heard a lot of people complain about seasons 6-9. I'm hesitant to move forward.

If you're not the kind of person who really needs to stick with a show, no matter what (or if this isn't one of those shows for you), I would suggest not bothering. There are moments, there are a few really good episodes, but overall the frustration is just not worth it.

You know I'm starting to really not like Sam at all the shit he says out of his mouth to dean just breaks my heart. I'm starting to believe that what the dean's fan say is spot on. My mouth is still hanging open from when they were playing the truth game and Sam says he would have let dean die. Did you see the hurt in deans eyes un imaginable hurt and pain just wow! C/p same answer!

Good answer :)

I do think Sam would let Dean die. They've saved each other before and it almost never goes well - plus, Sam didn't try to save Dean from purgatory. I'm honestly surprised that Dean would even think that Sam would try to save him. He's proven that he won't, he was only saying out loud what we all know anyway.

But yeah, rough. Poor Dean.

sign my name please

will do :)

SO fucking right!!!! I'm starting to hate the love/hate it's getting old and annoying

Just catching up on some commenting and basically I just agree with everything you said here. I actually enjoyed S4 & S5, a lot, but for me the show ended after 5. Everything since then has just been one long Alternate Reality WIP fanfic, chapter 80 of ? - for me, that's the only way to get through this awfulness. It's the same old bullshit they've been hashing out for years now - 'I can't trust you,', 'You don't love me as much as I love you', 'You lied to me, I can't trust you,', 'You want to ~~date~~ hunt with other people'. It's fine for a season or two but then you need character growth - you can't leave your people in the same place for 9 fucking seasons. Two grown-ass 30-somethings should not be in the same place emotionally that they were in their early/mid twenties, because, dude, that's messed up, unrealistic, and for them should be kind of worrisome. EVERYBODY CHANGES. Otherwise life, and in this case Show, is just boring. So, yes, agreed with you - Show, stop hashing out the same shit. You've reached a point where it doesn't even make any sense anymore that they are still hunting together because they really seem to hate each other and that is just not on for me, yo.

I agree with a lot of this, but I am also a serious Castiel fan so I am watching to see what will become of this story arc.
As for Dean/Sam characters, YES, they are making Sam very unlikable and Dean, so in need of a hug. I honestly have never really been a Sam fan, always thought he was the more self centered character of the two, but underneath it all there was this connection between them, this feeling of "I'd die for you, but never let you die for me" sort of thing. I'm not really seeing it now and I miss it and hope it gets resolved in this or the next season. And, of course -- personally, I hope they keep Castiel around :)

I hope they keep Cas around, too!

I like Dean and Sam and Cas, all three of them, but primarily I watch for for the 'Dean and Sam against the world' parts. Sadly, those parts don't exist anymore, but I keep watching hoping they'll come back.

And while I find they're making Dean just as unlikable as they're making Sam lately, I do agree that Sam has been the more self-centred character. I had this whole thing I wrote once where I compared Sam to Angel, and how they're both doing good things, but primarily for personal gain. I don't know. The difference is, I didn't like Angel. I do like Sam :)

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