RockStarPeach

When this season started, I was delighted that it seemed like the two of them were feeling the "he ain't heavy, he's my brother" vibe again. Now it seems like we're back almost up to S5-level tension between the two of them. I like my angst and man-pain and Patent Pending Jensen Ackles Perfect Man Tear as much as the next fangirl, but really, I can only take so much.

I think Sam did the right thing by shooting the girl, like I thought Dean did the right thing when he offed Amy.

I agree with you re Sam's dickitude, and yes, Dean deserved a little sympathy at that point. But I also think that, in addition to god-knows-what Lucifer might've been whispering to him, Sam was scared off his ass at what could have happened to Dean and that's why his reaction was so over-the-top.

When a small child frightens his parents that badly, what's the first thing that parent does when the scare is over? Grab the kid, maybe shake 'em a little bit, and yell at 'em for scaring the crap out of them. The tears and comforting come later. That's how I viewed Sam's response.

So, Sam Winchester's a douchebag. What's new...? :P

Hey, did you notice that Dean totally got topped by yet ANOTHER woman?

And how come Sam's designated driver now? Is it Dean's alcoholism or does he just refuse to drive any car that's not the Impala...?

Yeah. I dunno why Dean didn't just deftly elbow Sam in the face for his trite little tirade. And I don't buy that he was just worried incase Dean got killed first. My arse.

Would it have killed him to show a little sympathy to the dude? Would it have hurt for the writers to write a little love/empathy/consideration into the Impala confessions?

I think Sam's actions through the entire episode were both typical Winchester and just-under-the-surface-buckets-'o-crazy. He was having so much fun teasing Dean about his one-night stand and all just like brothers but the flash of spiteful payback in his eyes just after he shoots Emma was like, 'lights out, nobody's home'.

But, they also dealt with a lot more of Bobby's death more openly in this episode than a Winchester ever has. And just because they burned Bobby's body doesn't mean he's not a ghost (I'm sure he left some random DNA material somewhere, in fact I suspected the skin paper Sam took to the professor was Bobby's, lol). I'm not sure the 'weird' stuff going on can all be in Dean's head. Did anyone else notice in the Ness episode that Sheriff Mills said she didn't know Rufus? Hello, saved him from jail and took him to Bobby's. Ring a bell?

I guess my point is perhaps the writers are setting up something crazy and far-fetched for the end of season. At least I hope so, other wise there's a lot going on here that they're making obvious and there needs to be a reason for all of this at some point.

Actually, I really thought Sam was channeling Dean through the whole ep and I kind of appreciated that the boys actually dealt with some stuff, albeit in the Winchester way which is never healthy. *pets the brothers* They're broken, they know it, they don't know what to do with it anymore.

But please, writers, stop making Dean deal with so many 'family man' type situations, you're beating a dead horse. He was forced to taste the nectar of something he could never have when Sam died and then forced to block Lisa/Ben out of his life forever. This is why Dean builds walls, he feels things and wants the normal life just as much as Sam did when he left for Sanford and now he's being forced again to realize he can't have it. Stop making him relive it all again and again.

Sorry for the rant, last night's ep didn't bother me so much as it seems like we're just torturing the boys for no reason more and more this season.

Oh, and if we can get Baby back sometime in the next century I'd be much happier. Really, they've killed off all the important side characters. Hopefully we'll see Gabriel and Bobby driving up in her in the finale.

I can dream, right?

ok read half the comments... but before I forget what I want to write I jump ahead and leave my 2cents of the episode.

My first flaw was the promo and that we knew from the bat, Dean was getting a child who grows like weed and frankly I knew the monsterspawns are supposed to kill their fathers when I saw the "confront the father" in the promo. why not show the victims and dean who flirts and be done with it? took the a lot of the anticipation out for me.

Anywho, there were several... writing and directing issues I had problems with. First where do the boys get these classic cars? Then those amazons are a near extinct warrior tribe. You should think they would be more cautious and see when a classic car is parked before the house or when it follows you in some seedy alley. and parks like thirty feet behind you while you let your new recrute in your secret base.

The amazons themselves are really what I liked. I might have done them a bit differently but I loved the mythology behind them. (basically I always love it when it comes to greece myths)

Like many Sams reaction were a bit screwed for me.
Many of you say he has a hard time halluzinating. But frankly? Why dont they show us? While Sam eavesdropped on the emma Dean conversation they could have made him hear (and the audience) a cacophony of whispers, taunts and insults from Lucifer. You know. You dont need lucifer himself to make sure the audience is aware of Sams unstable condition. use little tricks and stuff. Sam said himself he knows partly what he is up against and tiptoes around his wonderworld he has in his brain.

Why Emma didnt kill Dean outright was explained for me. She was told Dean is a hunter, she might have succeded to overpower him but there was a real chance that he kills her. So they went with a different tactic to lure him safe and kill him with a feint and a knife in the back rather than outright combat. I approved of it ^^.

I do think as well that Emma needed to be killed. But I also think Sam had a more emotional bond with Amy than Dean had with Emma. Dean knew her for all of half an hour.
Either way a sorry of Sam would have been nice.

But what me pissed of more, was Sams talk of:
"I dont care how you deal with it, just dont die on me!"

So I dont have much experience with Traumatised persons or suicidal endangered ones... but I think this is a pretty bad thing to say to someone who lost his drive and joy in life. Who can barely hold it together.

Sam is supposed to care. I know Dean is one damn hard unthankful "patient", but hell Sam is a stubborn bitch after all. But now he doesnt care how Dean deals with his grieve, and his emptiness and trauma? That Dean does not value his life anymore because he is burned out to the core? That dean just wants it to be over? So Dean can do what he wants but he cant die on Sam cause then Sam would be alone? Nice further guilttripping Sam. Cause it should never be an option to give up in life but in Deans Case... when he gets this Leviathan mess done I believe he will shoot his brains out to be done with it. To find peace. At least he wants to. But there is one thing in him that tells him: I cant let Sammy down.

I really hope that when Sams mental problem gets healed... that he sits down with Dean and tells him that Dean should only go on hunting for his owns sake, Dean shouldnt feel obligated just because his brother isnt tired of it.

I agree. What Sam did was right, how he reacted to it was wrong. Sam bringing up Amy as if it should change how Dean feels was a dick move. Didn't Sam throw a hissy fit and run off after finding out about Amy? Yet Dean isn't allowed to mourn his child?

Also we're forgetting Dean did know Emma. He got to see her as a cute little baby wearing pink onesies and hair bows. Then later as a little school girl with her hair tied back. When she went to kill Dean she was, what like 16? A kid. I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on someone I saw as a baby, a little kid, and a young kid even if they weren't my flesh and blood.